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title:“NY Ratification Convention Debates and Proceedings”
date written:1788-7-24

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"NY Ratification Convention Debates and Proceedings." The Documentary History of the Ratification of the Constitution. Vol. 22. Ed. John P. Kaminski. Madison: Wisconsin Historical Society Press, 2008. 2288-96. Print.
New York Ratification Convention Journal, 68-70

NY Ratification Convention Debates and Proceedings (July 24, 1788)

Convention Proceedings. That on the 24th day of July, another of the amendments proposed, was again read, in the words following, viz. "In full confidence nevertheless, That until a Convention shall be called and convened, for proposing amendments to the said Constitution—the Militia of this State will not be continued in service out of this State for a longer term than six weeks, without the consent of the Legislature thereof." That debates were had on the said amendment: and that the question having been put, whether the Committee did agree to the same, (and on motion of Mr. Lansing the yeas and nays being taken) it was carried in the affirmative in the manner following, viz.
For the Affirmative. [32]
Mr. Jay, Mr. Low, Mr. Leffrets, Mr. Plat, Mr. R. Morris, Mr. Lansing, Mr. Vandervoort, Mr. M. Smith, Mr. Hobart, Mr. Ten Eyck, Mr. Bancker, Mr. Akins, Mr. Hamilton, Mr. Scudder, Mr. Ryerss, Mr. G. Livingston, Mr. R. Livingston, Mr. J. Smith, Mr. P. Livingston, Mr. D'Witt, Mr. Roosevelt, Mr. Schenck, Mr. Van Cortlandt, Mr. Harper, Mr. Duane, Mr. Lawrence, Mr. Crane, Mr. Williams, Mr. Harison, Mr. Carman, Mr. Sarlls, Mr. Hopkins.
For the Negative. [22]
Mr. R. Yates, Mr. Wynkoop, Mr. C. Yates, Mr. Parker, Mr. I. Thompson, Mr. Haring, Mr. Frey, Mr. Baker, Mr. Tredwell, Mr. Woodhull, Mr. Winn, Mr. Van Ness, Mr. President, Mr. Wisner, Mr. Veeder, Mr. Bay, Mr. Clark, Mr. Wood, Mr. Staring, Mr. Adgate. Mr. J. Clinton, Mr. Swartwout CONVENTION PROCEEDINGS. That the three next following amend-ments having been severally again read, and that the question having been put, whether the Committee did agree to the same, they were respectively unanimously agreed to, and are in the words following, viz. "That the Congress will not make or alter any regulation in this State respecting the times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators or Representatives, unless the Legislature of this State shall neglect or refuse to make laws or regulations for the purpose, or from any circumstance be incapable of making the same; and that in those cases such power will only be exercised until the Legislature of this State shall make provision in the premises. . . ."
CONVENTION PROCEEDINGS. ". . . That no excise will be imposed on any article of the growth, production or manufacture of the United States or any of them, within this State, ardent spirits excepted. . . ."
CONVENTION PROCEEDINGS. ". .. And that Congress will not lay direct Taxes within this State, but when the monies arising from the Impost and Excise shall be insufficient for the public exigencies, nor then until Congress shall first have made a requisition upon this State to assess, levy and pay the amount of such requisition, made agreeably to the census fixed in the said Constitution, in such way and manner as the Legislature of this State shall judge best; but that in such case, if the State shall neglect or refuse to pay its proportion pursuant to such requisition, then the Congress may assess and levy this State's proportion, together with interest at the rate of six per centum per annum, from the time at which the same was required to be paid."
CONVENTION PROCEEDINGS. That Mr. Lansing then made a motion for an amendment, in the words following, viz. "Reserving to this State a right to recede and withdraw itself, as one of the members of the said government at any time after the expiration of years, unless the said amendments shall before that time have been submitted to a Convention in the mode prescribed in the fifth article of the said Constitution."
CONVENTION PROCEEDINGS. That debates were had on the amendment proposed by the said motion—and that the farther consideration thereof was postponed until the morrow.

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