Theophilus Parson's Notes of the Massachusetts Ratification Convention (January 21, 1788)

Mr. PARSONS assigns the reasons why two-thirds of the senators are requisite for convictions.

Mr. AMES, on the fourth section. Assigns two reasons in favor of that section. 2. As the first Congress will be chosen puruant to State regulations, and therefore equal, if Congress were to fix an unequal place, to influence the choice in favor of one member, it would be opposed by the other members. 2. If we can trust our own legislature, can trust the legislatures of the other States rather than the Congress? This section is not a trap, but a security for the liberties of the people, and introduced to guard them Mr. DANA once thought it dangerous and unnecessary; is now convinced to the contrary 1. The representation is to proceed directly from the people—the people ought to be equally represented, and have equal influence—remarks on Rhode Island—there must be a power—

Mr. COOLEY states any objection unnecessary because the rights of the people are secured by oath.

Mr. PARSONS.

Dr. TAYLOR.

Mr. PARSONS, in reply.

Mr. KING. Distinct ideas of time, place and manner—pursues Ames's ideas of trusting the legislatures of the other States—corporate representation not the same as by numbers—the present situation of Connecticut—South Carolina—Charleston sends thirty and given districts send given numbers of representatives, without regard to the number electors—the controlling power therefore, is necessary.

Adjourned.